Anger as date is finally set for Post Office axe

Witney Gazette: Witney Post Office Witney Post Office

WITNEY’S Post Office will close on March 12, bosses have revealed.

The Post Office has decided to go ahead with a plan, previously revealed by the Oxford Mail, to move the service into the WH Smith branch in Market Square.

It comes after a six-week consultation on the proposals was held, and a petition with more than 2,000 signatures against the closure was presented to Post Office bosses.

Residents and campaigners have raised concerns that WH Smith’s branch in the town is too small to accommodate the Post Office.

District councillor Duncan Enright said: “The WH Smith is too small, too cramped and not accessible enough to accommodate the post office.

“That feedback was given to them loud and clear by both the town and district councils.

“Where is the evidence that they have listened at all?

“We will continue to highlight the problems with the plan and do everything we can to make sure Witney gets the post office services that it needs.”

Crown Network general manager Roger Gale said: “We are committed to keeping a Post Office branch in Witney and to maintaining the same levels of service for our customers.’’

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6:47am Wed 18 Dec 13

H.J.Harris says...

I was in the Post Office a few days ago, five windows were open but the queue was still long enough to reach the door. Where would we have been standing had the Post Office been in the already crowded W.H.Smith's ?
I was in the Post Office a few days ago, five windows were open but the queue was still long enough to reach the door. Where would we have been standing had the Post Office been in the already crowded W.H.Smith's ? H.J.Harris

7:25am Wed 18 Dec 13

Andrew:Oxford says...

H.J.Harris wrote:
I was in the Post Office a few days ago, five windows were open but the queue was still long enough to reach the door. Where would we have been standing had the Post Office been in the already crowded W.H.Smith's ?
You'll be standing outside wishing you'd used an alternative to buying the products at a Post Office.
[quote][p][bold]H.J.Harris[/bold] wrote: I was in the Post Office a few days ago, five windows were open but the queue was still long enough to reach the door. Where would we have been standing had the Post Office been in the already crowded W.H.Smith's ?[/p][/quote]You'll be standing outside wishing you'd used an alternative to buying the products at a Post Office. Andrew:Oxford

1:32pm Wed 18 Dec 13

windrushview says...

Proves they havent taken the slightest bit of notice of what the public and councillors have said .
Gonna do their own thing whatever.
WH Smith wont work,cant work.
The building isnt big enough now nevermind placing a post office counter in it..
Absolutely mental .
I for one will never use it and people in wheelchairs will suffer even more frustration than they do now .
Proves they havent taken the slightest bit of notice of what the public and councillors have said . Gonna do their own thing whatever. WH Smith wont work,cant work. The building isnt big enough now nevermind placing a post office counter in it.. Absolutely mental . I for one will never use it and people in wheelchairs will suffer even more frustration than they do now . windrushview

4:34pm Wed 18 Dec 13

AngelB says...

Our MP is pretty quiet on this matter, doesn't he intend to support the overwhelming wish of his constituents to keep the Post Office where it is?
Our MP is pretty quiet on this matter, doesn't he intend to support the overwhelming wish of his constituents to keep the Post Office where it is? AngelB

5:51pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Englishman says...

Went in Smiths today and walked out again. Shop was crammed with a long queue and only one person serving so will now buy my magazines elsewhere. As they will have to cut out stock to make way for a PO, trade is bound to suffer. Full marks to the brainless idiots who thought this one up.
Went in Smiths today and walked out again. Shop was crammed with a long queue and only one person serving so will now buy my magazines elsewhere. As they will have to cut out stock to make way for a PO, trade is bound to suffer. Full marks to the brainless idiots who thought this one up. Englishman

8:04pm Wed 18 Dec 13

alu355 says...

Why do people still use Post Offices? Everything you can do in one you can do online / directly with other providers.
Why do people still use Post Offices? Everything you can do in one you can do online / directly with other providers. alu355

8:00am Thu 19 Dec 13

H.J.Harris says...

alu355 wrote:
Why do people still use Post Offices? Everything you can do in one you can do online / directly with other providers.
Not everyone has a computer or, if they do, are not comfortable with on-line transactions.
I use the Post Office mainly for mailing letters and cards abroad.
Thanks to Tesco taking over the convenience stores in Witney which had contained sub-Post Offices, demand on the one at Burwell Farm is bound to increase, I hope they can cope.
[quote][p][bold]alu355[/bold] wrote: Why do people still use Post Offices? Everything you can do in one you can do online / directly with other providers.[/p][/quote]Not everyone has a computer or, if they do, are not comfortable with on-line transactions. I use the Post Office mainly for mailing letters and cards abroad. Thanks to Tesco taking over the convenience stores in Witney which had contained sub-Post Offices, demand on the one at Burwell Farm is bound to increase, I hope they can cope. H.J.Harris

11:16am Thu 19 Dec 13

witneyer says...

This is what happens when you get Canadians to run our vital institutions, Moya Greene at Royal Mail, and Carney at the Bank of England.
They don't care one jot. Why should they? Once finished here and their bank balances sky high they'll be off back home (or somewhere else to get cashloads).
I suggest you check up to see what Moya Greene did at Canada Post.
Letter deliveries to 'your' door? You must be joking, take a long walk (and that's what will eventually happen if she stays in charge)..
Do we have any integrity left in this now pathetic country?

As for the pathetic statement by Roger Gale, 'same levels of service for our customers'. You're just totally naive if you think that is possible in a WHS that simply does not have room for a Post Office counter to function in the same way as the High Street one. Not difficult. It's simple. It's NOT possible!
This is what happens when you get Canadians to run our vital institutions, Moya Greene at Royal Mail, and Carney at the Bank of England. They don't care one jot. Why should they? Once finished here and their bank balances sky high they'll be off back home (or somewhere else to get cashloads). I suggest you check up to see what Moya Greene did at Canada Post. Letter deliveries to 'your' door? You must be joking, take a long walk (and that's what will eventually happen if she stays in charge).. Do we have any integrity left in this now pathetic country? As for the pathetic statement by Roger Gale, 'same levels of service for our customers'. You're just totally naive if you think that is possible in a WHS that simply does not have room for a Post Office counter to function in the same way as the High Street one. Not difficult. It's simple. It's NOT possible! witneyer

7:49pm Thu 19 Dec 13

alu355 says...

The Royal Mail is a private company. Its only goal is to make a profit for its shareholders. Why would they be interested about someone who wants a larger counter unless there is more money to be made from that?
The Royal Mail is a private company. Its only goal is to make a profit for its shareholders. Why would they be interested about someone who wants a larger counter unless there is more money to be made from that? alu355

9:53am Fri 20 Dec 13

dave from witney says...

Just shows that ''the consultation '' was a complete whitewash. I was one of those that objected to the Smith's shop. In a letter I received back they seemed to highlight that some consumers welcomed the change as the new premises would have an automatic door. Not a lot of good when they will be constantly open while customers queue out the doors.

Just about the worst site they could have picked, makes you wonder if there are a few backhanders flying around.
Just shows that ''the consultation '' was a complete whitewash. I was one of those that objected to the Smith's shop. In a letter I received back they seemed to highlight that some consumers welcomed the change as the new premises would have an automatic door. Not a lot of good when they will be constantly open while customers queue out the doors. Just about the worst site they could have picked, makes you wonder if there are a few backhanders flying around. dave from witney

8:10pm Sat 21 Dec 13

Botley Bill says...

David's Government have lost control of the Post Office senior managers.

Royal Mail has been privatised but the Post Office still belongs to every single one of us, the public.

Post Office senior managers are awarding themselves obscene bonuses for cutting costs by selling the footfall of Post Office customers to shops like WH Smiths and the Government seems quite happy to let Post Office senior managers take vast amounts of public money for abusing vulnerable people in the UK.

People who find it hard to move about are not worth less than everyone else. They should not be made to feel that the rest of society are doing them a favour by letting them live. Show them you respect them by boycotting WH Smiths. Make Smiths pull out of this deal.
David's Government have lost control of the Post Office senior managers. Royal Mail has been privatised but the Post Office still belongs to every single one of us, the public. Post Office senior managers are awarding themselves obscene bonuses for cutting costs by selling the footfall of Post Office customers to shops like WH Smiths and the Government seems quite happy to let Post Office senior managers take vast amounts of public money for abusing vulnerable people in the UK. People who find it hard to move about are not worth less than everyone else. They should not be made to feel that the rest of society are doing them a favour by letting them live. Show them you respect them by boycotting WH Smiths. Make Smiths pull out of this deal. Botley Bill

8:59am Sun 22 Dec 13

ChrisL67 says...

alu355 wrote:
Why do people still use Post Offices? Everything you can do in one you can do online / directly with other providers.
Where else can you send a small item up to 100g for just 69p or up to 1kg for £2.60. I don't think you'll find any of the courier services able to compete with this any time soon. Older people also get a lot of help from Post Office staff that cannot ever be replicated over the phone or internet.
[quote][p][bold]alu355[/bold] wrote: Why do people still use Post Offices? Everything you can do in one you can do online / directly with other providers.[/p][/quote]Where else can you send a small item up to 100g for just 69p or up to 1kg for £2.60. I don't think you'll find any of the courier services able to compete with this any time soon. Older people also get a lot of help from Post Office staff that cannot ever be replicated over the phone or internet. ChrisL67

9:16pm Sun 22 Dec 13

the wizard says...

Quote,

Crown Network general manager Roger Gale said: “We are committed to keeping a Post Office branch in Witney and to maintaining the same levels of service for our customers.’’

TOTAL LIES. If that were the case the WH Smiths would not be worthy of consideration. Total idiot of a man, just how have you risen so high when you spin total bull 5hit.

Where are you Cameron ? waste of space. If you really cared about the voters here you would be serving their intrests instead of pulling a fat cat wage, fat cat wage rise, and sitting back looking forever smug and doing nothing. What a waste of space you are, totally unforgivable, you have just keeled over and accepted the unacceptable like a lap dog, totally spineless. Total disgrace.
Quote, Crown Network general manager Roger Gale said: “We are committed to keeping a Post Office branch in Witney and to maintaining the same levels of service for our customers.’’ TOTAL LIES. If that were the case the WH Smiths would not be worthy of consideration. Total idiot of a man, just how have you risen so high when you spin total bull 5hit. Where are you Cameron ? waste of space. If you really cared about the voters here you would be serving their intrests instead of pulling a fat cat wage, fat cat wage rise, and sitting back looking forever smug and doing nothing. What a waste of space you are, totally unforgivable, you have just keeled over and accepted the unacceptable like a lap dog, totally spineless. Total disgrace. the wizard

9:46am Mon 23 Dec 13

alu355 says...

ChrisL67 wrote:
alu355 wrote:
Why do people still use Post Offices? Everything you can do in one you can do online / directly with other providers.
Where else can you send a small item up to 100g for just 69p or up to 1kg for £2.60. I don't think you'll find any of the courier services able to compete with this any time soon. Older people also get a lot of help from Post Office staff that cannot ever be replicated over the phone or internet.
I can't post links but there are several services that offer similar prices to this for parcels, not just the Post Office / Royal Mail.

As for 'help' from the Post Office, what sort of 'help' are we talking about? The Post Office isn't supposed to be an advice service, there are many other public and charitable organisations there for that. If they can't make money on a commercial level playing field then the only way to keep them is to come into arrangements with other retail outlets.
[quote][p][bold]ChrisL67[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alu355[/bold] wrote: Why do people still use Post Offices? Everything you can do in one you can do online / directly with other providers.[/p][/quote]Where else can you send a small item up to 100g for just 69p or up to 1kg for £2.60. I don't think you'll find any of the courier services able to compete with this any time soon. Older people also get a lot of help from Post Office staff that cannot ever be replicated over the phone or internet.[/p][/quote]I can't post links but there are several services that offer similar prices to this for parcels, not just the Post Office / Royal Mail. As for 'help' from the Post Office, what sort of 'help' are we talking about? The Post Office isn't supposed to be an advice service, there are many other public and charitable organisations there for that. If they can't make money on a commercial level playing field then the only way to keep them is to come into arrangements with other retail outlets. alu355

12:44pm Mon 23 Dec 13

the wizard says...

alu355 wrote:
ChrisL67 wrote:
alu355 wrote:
Why do people still use Post Offices? Everything you can do in one you can do online / directly with other providers.
Where else can you send a small item up to 100g for just 69p or up to 1kg for £2.60. I don't think you'll find any of the courier services able to compete with this any time soon. Older people also get a lot of help from Post Office staff that cannot ever be replicated over the phone or internet.
I can't post links but there are several services that offer similar prices to this for parcels, not just the Post Office / Royal Mail.

As for 'help' from the Post Office, what sort of 'help' are we talking about? The Post Office isn't supposed to be an advice service, there are many other public and charitable organisations there for that. If they can't make money on a commercial level playing field then the only way to keep them is to come into arrangements with other retail outlets.
Quote,


As for 'help' from the Post Office, what sort of 'help' are we talking about? The Post Office isn't supposed to be an advice service, there are many other public and charitable organisations there for that

Staff at the Post Office do/can give helpful advice to the elderly who have little or no grasp of the internet. They have used the Post Office for all of their life and the staff there are knowledgeable and trusted by them.

Your comment is rude to say the least and would be considered by most as showing a degree of ignorance and smugness, supercilious to say the least. Many staunch conservatives view this as a very unsatisfactory way to deal with what is at best a difficult/delicate situation , which has been mis handled from start to finish by people who should know much better. Amateurs in their approach to say the least. Time for Cameron to wise up and stand up, and fight for what the residents in this town really want, not what suits his agenda. its the agenda of the people in this country that matters, and that doesn't include a shoe horn to get into the proposed WH Smith Post Office, total farce. Can't wait to try getting my wheelchair in there if it opens.
[quote][p][bold]alu355[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChrisL67[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alu355[/bold] wrote: Why do people still use Post Offices? Everything you can do in one you can do online / directly with other providers.[/p][/quote]Where else can you send a small item up to 100g for just 69p or up to 1kg for £2.60. I don't think you'll find any of the courier services able to compete with this any time soon. Older people also get a lot of help from Post Office staff that cannot ever be replicated over the phone or internet.[/p][/quote]I can't post links but there are several services that offer similar prices to this for parcels, not just the Post Office / Royal Mail. As for 'help' from the Post Office, what sort of 'help' are we talking about? The Post Office isn't supposed to be an advice service, there are many other public and charitable organisations there for that. If they can't make money on a commercial level playing field then the only way to keep them is to come into arrangements with other retail outlets.[/p][/quote]Quote, As for 'help' from the Post Office, what sort of 'help' are we talking about? The Post Office isn't supposed to be an advice service, there are many other public and charitable organisations there for that Staff at the Post Office do/can give helpful advice to the elderly who have little or no grasp of the internet. They have used the Post Office for all of their life and the staff there are knowledgeable and trusted by them. Your comment is rude to say the least and would be considered by most as showing a degree of ignorance and smugness, supercilious to say the least. Many staunch conservatives view this as a very unsatisfactory way to deal with what is at best a difficult/delicate situation , which has been mis handled from start to finish by people who should know much better. Amateurs in their approach to say the least. Time for Cameron to wise up and stand up, and fight for what the residents in this town really want, not what suits his agenda. its the agenda of the people in this country that matters, and that doesn't include a shoe horn to get into the proposed WH Smith Post Office, total farce. Can't wait to try getting my wheelchair in there if it opens. the wizard

12:38pm Tue 24 Dec 13

Bart_simpsonDoh says...

I'm sure Davy boy will stop this.
I'm sure Davy boy will stop this. Bart_simpsonDoh

2:31pm Tue 24 Dec 13

jhalinson says...

What sort of help are people getting at Post Offices other than maybe help on how to send letters?
What sort of help are people getting at Post Offices other than maybe help on how to send letters? jhalinson

1:31pm Wed 25 Dec 13

ChrisL67 says...

alu355 wrote:
ChrisL67 wrote:
alu355 wrote:
Why do people still use Post Offices? Everything you can do in one you can do online / directly with other providers.
Where else can you send a small item up to 100g for just 69p or up to 1kg for £2.60. I don't think you'll find any of the courier services able to compete with this any time soon. Older people also get a lot of help from Post Office staff that cannot ever be replicated over the phone or internet.
I can't post links but there are several services that offer similar prices to this for parcels, not just the Post Office / Royal Mail.

As for 'help' from the Post Office, what sort of 'help' are we talking about? The Post Office isn't supposed to be an advice service, there are many other public and charitable organisations there for that. If they can't make money on a commercial level playing field then the only way to keep them is to come into arrangements with other retail outlets.
Maybe you should post us the links because without them you sound like you haven't actually researched anything. I used a comparison site called parcel monkey to get prices for a 1kg parcel measuring 20cm x 20cm x 20cm and the best I could find was £5.39 whereas the Post Office / Royal Mail price is just £2.60, open a "drop and go" account and you don't even need to queue.
[quote][p][bold]alu355[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChrisL67[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alu355[/bold] wrote: Why do people still use Post Offices? Everything you can do in one you can do online / directly with other providers.[/p][/quote]Where else can you send a small item up to 100g for just 69p or up to 1kg for £2.60. I don't think you'll find any of the courier services able to compete with this any time soon. Older people also get a lot of help from Post Office staff that cannot ever be replicated over the phone or internet.[/p][/quote]I can't post links but there are several services that offer similar prices to this for parcels, not just the Post Office / Royal Mail. As for 'help' from the Post Office, what sort of 'help' are we talking about? The Post Office isn't supposed to be an advice service, there are many other public and charitable organisations there for that. If they can't make money on a commercial level playing field then the only way to keep them is to come into arrangements with other retail outlets.[/p][/quote]Maybe you should post us the links because without them you sound like you haven't actually researched anything. I used a comparison site called parcel monkey to get prices for a 1kg parcel measuring 20cm x 20cm x 20cm and the best I could find was £5.39 whereas the Post Office / Royal Mail price is just £2.60, open a "drop and go" account and you don't even need to queue. ChrisL67

1:40pm Wed 25 Dec 13

ChrisL67 says...

H.J.Harris wrote:
alu355 wrote:
Why do people still use Post Offices? Everything you can do in one you can do online / directly with other providers.
Not everyone has a computer or, if they do, are not comfortable with on-line transactions.
I use the Post Office mainly for mailing letters and cards abroad.
Thanks to Tesco taking over the convenience stores in Witney which had contained sub-Post Offices, demand on the one at Burwell Farm is bound to increase, I hope they can cope.
Burwell Farm will be opening a new counter taking it from 2 counters to 3 in the next few months and the hard working staff are looking forward to the possibility of being busier as it is often too quiet. Queues are usually very short in Burwell. North Leigh to the north of Witney is the next nearest Post Office to the main one after Burwell, they report that they could also cope with more demand. North Leigh post office is inside the village hall.
[quote][p][bold]H.J.Harris[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alu355[/bold] wrote: Why do people still use Post Offices? Everything you can do in one you can do online / directly with other providers.[/p][/quote]Not everyone has a computer or, if they do, are not comfortable with on-line transactions. I use the Post Office mainly for mailing letters and cards abroad. Thanks to Tesco taking over the convenience stores in Witney which had contained sub-Post Offices, demand on the one at Burwell Farm is bound to increase, I hope they can cope.[/p][/quote]Burwell Farm will be opening a new counter taking it from 2 counters to 3 in the next few months and the hard working staff are looking forward to the possibility of being busier as it is often too quiet. Queues are usually very short in Burwell. North Leigh to the north of Witney is the next nearest Post Office to the main one after Burwell, they report that they could also cope with more demand. North Leigh post office is inside the village hall. ChrisL67

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