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‘Witney needs more long-stay parking’


A THOUSAND people have backed a petition calling for more long-stay parking in Witney.

A total of 15 shops have collected signatures from shoppers and employees over the past two months.

They want West Oxfordshire District Council to make more long-stay car parking available in the town as, they say, the three-hour limit on the majority of spaces — which are free — does not allow people enough time to shop, eat and go to the cinema.

At the beginning of the month, the council announced that 150 — a quarter of the 590 spaces in the Marriotts Walk multi-storey — would be changed to a five-hour limit. These are on the two upper floors. The remaining spaces will continue to be for three hours.

The petition, which will be presented to the council at the end of the week, was started by Laura Steffens, 24.

Hairdresser Mrs Steffens, of Richards Hair Group, High Street, said: “I have to leave my clients every three hours to move my car from the car park. The general public have also said that they find it difficult as three hours isn’t acceptable.”

Kaz Hakimi collected 50 signatures at the Old Studio Coffee House, in High Street. He said: “It’s important for business that there are enough long-stay spaces as when people come here for three hours, they have not got the time to go to the town. Plenty of them get fined as the three-hour time limit is not enough.”

Larry Dowes, of Cafe Bakehouse, High Street, said: “Parking is always an issue. Three hours is not long enough.”

David Harvey, WODC cabinet member for the environment, said: “We need to be mindful of the fact that everybody wants to be able to park as close as possible to where they work.

“It is in the interests of those businesses that their clients should be able to park as close to the business as possible.

“We do need to try to encourage people who work in Witney to take a five-minute walk, thereby leaving the car parking spaces free for the people coming in to shop.

“We do have to get the balance right between visitors to Witney, staff, and residents who live in the town, and all those who go to Abingdon and Witney College.”

Janette Reed, chairman of the Witney Independent Traders’ Association, said: “We don’t want to lose any of the long-stay spaces that are there at the moment, like the provision at Woodford Way.”

There are concerns the shortage of long-stay car parking will worsen if the council goes ahead with plans to shut Woodford Way, which has 250 12-hour spaces.

The land has outline planning permission for 50 homes, which was granted in 2007, when Marriotts Walk was approved.

Woodford Way car park is only due to stay open until June next year.

Marriotts Walk, which opened at the end of October, has also created more than 300 new jobs, which has added to the pressure on facilities nearby, while the multi-storey car park has just 100 extra spaces for residents of the 143 new homes in Marriotts.

Witney Chamber of Commerce chairman, Lesley Semaine, said: “There has been a lot of concern about the length of parking.

“It’s central for most of the shoppers, but the people working in Witney are finding it very difficult to get any parking facilities.”

There are 2,000 car parking spaces in Witney town centre — almost 1,800 in council-run car parks and 200 on-street spaces.

Long-stay parking accounts for 23 per cent of spaces.


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firstwitney, Witney says...
3:34pm Tue 15 Dec 09

What these people who signed this petition don't seem to appreciate is the fact that the longer people stay in the carparks the less spaces there will be for the short time shopper.
whereas it is unreasonable for the shopper laden with heavy bags to walk long distances ,it might provide some useful exercise for the shopkeeper and the like to have a 10 minute walk.
Witney are already very generous in provision of free parking and perhaps the answer is to charge for parking over say 3hours.

LilyLangtry, Oxford says...
5:04pm Tue 15 Dec 09

I spent 15 minutes on Monday morning driving round the Woolgate car parks trying to find a space and today was little different. Coming into town in the car is getting nightmarish and surely the Woolgate parking should be aimed at shoppers and not people who want to leave their cars for the day while at work. If 5 hour parking were to be the norm then I hope the number of short stay spaces are increased. The one hour parking in front of Waitrose is constantly busy and a godsend for a quick bit of shopping. I only take the car when I want to load up with shopping but driving into Witney and finding a parking space is becoming difficult. If the Woodford Way car park is closed for housing then the problems are going to magnify. I sometimes go shopping and then meet up for coffee but we live with the 3 hour rule and fit it all in. I think we are lucky to have free parking in Witney as it is. Look at expensive Oxford which I avoid like the plague.

Andy_Witney, Witney says...
8:56am Wed 16 Dec 09

For pity's sake, it's nearly Christmas so the likes of LilyLangtry moaning about it taking a while to find a parking spot is pathetic. Was it any different this time last year? Probably not. There are 550 more parking spaces in Witney now, so things have got better. Let's hope WODC don't start listening to the muppets who are constantly complaining in Witney or you really will have something to complain about when they start charging for car parking.

Englishman, Witney says...
10:46am Wed 16 Dec 09

You would think that simple and obvious things would be sorted out at the planning stage but not in Witney it seems. Who thought that a 40 artic could for instance reverse into the entrance to the new shops on Welch Way without churning all the freshly planted grass up. We know that land is a premium but when will someone stand up and say enough is enough and lets think before we plan.

Andy_Witney, Witney says...
2:56pm Wed 16 Dec 09

Englishman, if you look on the WODC website, there are reports of studies detailing the effects on traffic and car parking that Marriotts Walk would have, so they have already done this. You may want to read it and then stop complaining.

Englishman, Witney says...
5:20pm Wed 16 Dec 09

Andy_Witney, If they have done such a good job then why are there not enough parking spaces, Why are there traffic jams all the time and why cant large vehicles get in and out of Welch Way easily. Many people told them in the planning stages of problems but they were ignored. Same as they are about the Cogges link road and future housing plans. Remember the Witney taxpayers pay for the 'FREE' parking

Andy_Witney, Witney says...
7:37pm Wed 16 Dec 09

I live overlooking one of the main Witan Way car parks, and there are very few occasions when it is completely full. People are just too bloody lazy to walk that little bit further to get to Marriotts Walk or the High Street. Or maybe they just like to have a good moan for the sake of it. How many towns in the country can you you honestly say give 'free' parking 365 days of the year?? I would like to guess that Witney is the biggest of those towns and yes, we do probably do pay for the up-keep of those car parks as part of our council tax. Are you saying that residents in other boroughs don't pay for the up-keep of their council run car parks just because they also charge a fee for them?
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Going on to the traffic problems, this has not got any worse since Marriotts Walk opened. I work in Oxford and the traffic in Witney is nowhere near as bad.
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Some people are never happy unless they are moaning, it would appear you Englishman of Witney are one of them.

Englishman, Witney says...
8:39pm Wed 16 Dec 09

Andy_Witney,

Got you going didn't it? and from what I see on other subjects on these pages you do your fair share.

AngelB, Witney says...
10:40am Thu 17 Dec 09

I have to disagree with you Andy_Witney, traffic most certainly has got worse since the new shops opened. I live at Tower Hill and work in Abingdon, over 10 minutes of my 25 minute commute takes me only as far as the Station Lane/Ducklington Lane junction. Any time of day entering or leaving Witney it is the same, dreadful.

Why were potential access problems not addressed before the new Lidl was built for example? I for one won't shop there or get my fuel at the Tesco forecourt because it just takes so long to get back out onto the road.

Englishman, Witney says...
10:51am Thu 17 Dec 09

AngelB, I too have the same problem there. Those traffic lights are a disaster. Although this was pointed out to planners before hand no notice was taken. Just wait until they ignore all advice and build the CLR and put more traffic on that junction.

Andy_Witney, Witney says...
11:06am Thu 17 Dec 09

AngelB, I completely agree with you regarding the mistake in allowing Lidl to be built there, but wasn't it part of the planning application by Lidl that a change to the junction was made by them (not the council) but has in fact not been carried out? If you are saying that traffic on that junction has got worse in recent months, then it generally does get worse in the winter months! My journey into Oxford on the S2 is always quicker during spring and summer, but often takes 20-25 minutes longer during autumn and winter. Isn't this just down to usual traffic patterns throughout the year?
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Englishman, what is your solution for the Station Lane/Ducklington Lane cross roads if the traffic lights are such a disaster? A free for all or ban all traffic into Witney? Let's here your ideas rather than your complaints.

opinionatedsoandso, Witney says...
11:59am Thu 17 Dec 09

1.) AngelB - I live just off Ducklington Road and it's always quicker during the busy hours of the day to go up Curbridge Road and then straight over towards Curbridge, then turn left towards the A415.
2.) If you're turning right out of the Tesco petrol station, it takes no time at all to pull out, Turning left, I agree is a pain.
3.)Lazy people - Walking from Lidl (for example) is a 15 - 20 min walk with kids / pushcair etc into the town centre. Anyone who drives to town to watch a film or go for a meal from the outlying housing areas (except Madley Park maybe) does not have a case to complain about the parking, they should walk. Large shopping trips might be a bit more difficult but we manage.
4.) There are so many different routes that can be taken to get from point to point in Witney, just use your imagination rather than just going the most direct (and busy) route.

Englishman, Witney says...
12:03pm Thu 17 Dec 09

OK. First - Put a filter on to let traffic out of Thorney Leys towards Ducklington. That may stop people going straight over the lights and doing a U turn to get back into the filter lane towards Ducklington
Second - Phase the lights much longer so as to let more vehicles through at a time instead of just three or four especially by Lidls before they change.
Build the Shores Green junction instead of the CLR and as they plan to build some 3000 extra houses at the back of the sewage farm put another junction on the bypass at Curbridge. This would also aleviate traffic ie lorries coming off the bypass and trying to get to the industrial estates around Deer Park and finally to ease a problem that cannot be overcome now because they allowed Lidls to be built is link the Pedestrian Crossing with the exit of Lidls under one set of lights. Perhaps not perfect but I am not a Planner.

HughdeGree, HughdeGree says...
9:08pm Fri 18 Dec 09

IT WILL GET WORSE when they CLOSE the temporary car park after Christmas, and build houses on the site. After that, the net gain in Car Parking compared to prior to Marriots Walk will be 89 spaces to serve the whole development! An issue that was predicted at the time of the planning application, but WODC Councillors ignored that.

Long-stay parking is inappropriate in the Town Centre when spaces are at a premium. They'll mainly be used by people who work in the Town Centre.

Long-stay parkers should be encouraged to either Park and Ride from the edge, or just take the bus, then collect by car if necessary.

This should be supplemented by a local TAXI rank.

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“Three-hour limit is not enough,” said Kaz Hakimi “Three-hour limit is not enough,” said Kaz Hakimi

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